[DiscordArchive] What normal servers are out there outside warmane?
[DiscordArchive] What normal servers are out there outside warmane?
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Sometimes you'll see a message in one of the emu discords like `Hey, maybe you guys should check out this packet I think is behaving strangely or is exploitable` but no issue created or PR submitted.
Likewise blizzlike content + scaling changes are made all the time. Even servers with custom systems are primarily blizzlike game content.
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:21 PM #11Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:21:15.520000+00:00
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Sometimes you'll see a message in one of the emu discords like `Hey, maybe you guys should check out this packet I think is behaving strangely or is exploitable` but no issue created or PR submitted.
Likewise blizzlike content + scaling changes are made all the time. Even servers with custom systems are primarily blizzlike game content.
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For sure, it takes more effort to curate a PR and get code into a standard that is acceptable to maintainers. But I also think it's so entirely wrong to be profiteering on a game we don't own and that has been built up on the open source community. It's a very controversial discussion and one that has gone back and forth a lot of times, a common argument is the servers are not actually making much profit because they reinvest most of it into staff. ♂️
But 100% these servers could contribute more back. There are many private forks of spell editor for example, and they don't contribute back. The most I have had is an offer to have access to a private fork.
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:25 PM #12Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:25:47.467000+00:00
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For sure, it takes more effort to curate a PR and get code into a standard that is acceptable to maintainers. But I also think it's so entirely wrong to be profiteering on a game we don't own and that has been built up on the open source community. It's a very controversial discussion and one that has gone back and forth a lot of times, a common argument is the servers are not actually making much profit because they reinvest most of it into staff. ♂️
But 100% these servers could contribute more back. There are many private forks of spell editor for example, and they don't contribute back. The most I have had is an offer to have access to a private fork.
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There are also Noggit forks who never contributed a single line back to the project
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:26 PM #13Archived author: Kaev • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:26:55.759000+00:00
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There are also Noggit forks who never contributed a single line back to the project
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I understand that even less. If not the game server, at least contribute to the tools that allow you to work on your dream game
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:27 PM #14Archived author: Kaev • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:27:40.013000+00:00
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I understand that even less. If not the game server, at least contribute to the tools that allow you to work on your dream game
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There is of pretty much everything. They see a gap in the market, take the tools and other software, add the functionality + enhancements they want, and turn it into a business.
There's nothing you can do to stop people doing that. And the ones doing it will naturally rise to the top as they have more money to throw at problems.
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:27 PM #15Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:27:44.347000+00:00
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There is of pretty much everything. They see a gap in the market, take the tools and other software, add the functionality + enhancements they want, and turn it into a business.
There's nothing you can do to stop people doing that. And the ones doing it will naturally rise to the top as they have more money to throw at problems.
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1.12 OS is very active, vmangos is so good that it basically killed private cores
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:27 PM #16Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:27:56.595000+00:00
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1.12 OS is very active, vmangos is so good that it basically killed private cores
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It's kinda a endless loop, people toss initnal money for private fixes and features on tools, use said tools to make more money, toss even more money around for more fixes and tools
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:29 PM #17Archived author: Jyria • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:29:08.601000+00:00
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It's kinda a endless loop, people toss initnal money for private fixes and features on tools, use said tools to make more money, toss even more money around for more fixes and tools
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The community survives on the goodwill of a few people. As it is in a lot of areas. Relevant XKCD:
![[Image: dependency.png?ex=690c4060&is=690aeee0&h...1f31dc318&]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415944535718494208/1240008198279401593/dependency.png?ex=690c4060&is=690aeee0&hm=1b500525bf1813fe451529fd7bac8045b08dc1ef092c7e73e8392aa1f31dc318&)
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:29 PM #18Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:29:52.755000+00:00
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The community survives on the goodwill of a few people. As it is in a lot of areas. Relevant XKCD:
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And pretty sure the ones that do that as a buisness 99% of the time don't want said tools, fixes and contributions since it will hurt their income due to the chance that some other project might rise up
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:30 PM #19Archived author: Jyria • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:30:26.373000+00:00
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And pretty sure the ones that do that as a buisness 99% of the time don't want said tools, fixes and contributions since it will hurt their income due to the chance that some other project might rise up
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That's one picture I have not seen in ages
rektbyfaith
05-14-2024, 06:31 PM #20Archived author: Jyria • Posted: 2024-05-14T18:31:07.715000+00:00
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That's one picture I have not seen in ages
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