[DiscordArchive] Have mentioned obfuscation at all ?
[DiscordArchive] Have mentioned obfuscation at all ?
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is it a mistake to spend resources on proper security measures and anticheat if some people will be able to bypass them with enough effort ?
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:24 PM #11Archived author: Adspartan • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:24:59.971000+00:00
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is it a mistake to spend resources on proper security measures and anticheat if some people will be able to bypass them with enough effort ?
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it's not like I wanted to do that for a giant server with thousands of players either, for a small community there's a lot less chances of having someone knowledgable and determined enough to do it
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:26 PM #12Archived author: Adspartan • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:26:25.727000+00:00
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it's not like I wanted to do that for a giant server with thousands of players either, for a small community there's a lot less chances of having someone knowledgable and determined enough to do it
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I mean, the point I'm trying to make is that this isn't a proper security or anti-cheat measure. It's just obfuscation which doesn't really help.
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:32 PM #13Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:32:23.045000+00:00
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I mean, the point I'm trying to make is that this isn't a proper security or anti-cheat measure. It's just obfuscation which doesn't really help.
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Well I guess we don't have the same definition of help then
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:41 PM #14Archived author: Adspartan • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:41:30.560000+00:00
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Well I guess we don't have the same definition of help then
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It doesn't stop any of the behaviours or actions you want to prevent, it just delays a minority of people being able to do it. You need to try and detect malicious actions server-side and flag it up. Most anti-cheat systems in WoW have a threshold where when a player triggers a potential violation enough times they get kicked/ban. You can configure this to report to Discord/GMs etc. It works pretty well for 90% of cases.
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:43 PM #15Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:43:59.186000+00:00
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It doesn't stop any of the behaviours or actions you want to prevent, it just delays a minority of people being able to do it. You need to try and detect malicious actions server-side and flag it up. Most anti-cheat systems in WoW have a threshold where when a player triggers a potential violation enough times they get kicked/ban. You can configure this to report to Discord/GMs etc. It works pretty well for 90% of cases.
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Bots on the other hand are even harder to detect and often require client scans to help try and detect it
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:45 PM #16Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:45:11.224000+00:00
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Bots on the other hand are even harder to detect and often require client scans to help try and detect it
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I have never said it was to replace cheat detection in the first place
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:45 PM #17Archived author: Adspartan • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:45:29.058000+00:00
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I have never said it was to replace cheat detection in the first place
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`you can if you have a launcher that talks to your server, or at least has a way to be synced and does memory edit in real time to change the version`
`having to re-download the exe each time isn't appealing`
I guess I was just extremely confused by these statements. Seems like you are sacrificing the ability to patch your client in favour of obfuscating a couple of public hacks.
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:50 PM #18Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:50:27.236000+00:00
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`you can if you have a launcher that talks to your server, or at least has a way to be synced and does memory edit in real time to change the version`
`having to re-download the exe each time isn't appealing`
I guess I was just extremely confused by these statements. Seems like you are sacrificing the ability to patch your client in favour of obfuscating a couple of public hacks.
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it's not sacrificing anything though
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:53 PM #19Archived author: Adspartan • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:53:10.316000+00:00
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it's not sacrificing anything though
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Yeah I don't understand your processes. The client build is used for patching, if you start randomising it and not downloading new exe's I don't understand how you can patch your client. Unless you use your own software that is required to be downloaded and run to manage the client
rektbyfaith
04-29-2022, 12:54 PM #20Archived author: stoneharry • Posted: 2022-04-29T12:54:35.110000+00:00
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Yeah I don't understand your processes. The client build is used for patching, if you start randomising it and not downloading new exe's I don't understand how you can patch your client. Unless you use your own software that is required to be downloaded and run to manage the client
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