[DiscordArchive] I just don't see how UDP vs TCP could improve the responsiveness of arenas in WoW for example. Which
[DiscordArchive] I just don't see how UDP vs TCP could improve the responsiveness of arenas in WoW for example. Which
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i'm not the network engineer on our team, so i can only vaguely recollect our reasoning, but enough to know that udp is not a non-upgrade
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:28 AM #21Archived author: <o> • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:28:22.548000+00:00
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i'm not the network engineer on our team, so i can only vaguely recollect our reasoning, but enough to know that udp is not a non-upgrade
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That doesn't sound good imo that's one of the complexities of designing a game with UDP vs TCP, you gotta consider whether ordering matters for this opcode (or channels, a popular construct afaik in ®UDP networking), reliable vs non-reliable and etc. With TCP you avoid all those issues. WoW is sending packets in the wrong order on retail sometimes?
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:28 AM #22Archived author: HelloKitty • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:28:28.178000+00:00
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That doesn't sound good imo that's one of the complexities of designing a game with UDP vs TCP, you gotta consider whether ordering matters for this opcode (or channels, a popular construct afaik in ®UDP networking), reliable vs non-reliable and etc. With TCP you avoid all those issues. WoW is sending packets in the wrong order on retail sometimes?
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no. I talk about the tcp level out of order packets
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:28 AM #23Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:28:59.873000+00:00
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no. I talk about the tcp level out of order packets
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on appllication level you actually see those correctly
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:29 AM #24Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:29:37.098000+00:00
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on appllication level you actually see those correctly
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i cried when I had to deal with those manually in wildstar sniffs because I told people to use wireshark until I had a sniffer ready
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:31 AM #25Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:31:21.678000+00:00
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i cried when I had to deal with those manually in wildstar sniffs because I told people to use wireshark until I had a sniffer ready
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wildstar movement packets are crazy btw. so much info for every little step u do. one foward step and u get 3 packets with info for that one <:lul:451485508380655616>
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:32 AM #26Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:32:39.480000+00:00
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wildstar movement packets are crazy btw. so much info for every little step u do. one foward step and u get 3 packets with info for that one <:lul:451485508380655616>
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thats most likely due to its action combat like gameplay
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:33 AM #27Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:33:23.445000+00:00
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thats most likely due to its action combat like gameplay
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I wish I had more free time to study more recent MMORPGs like Wildstar and others, to learn what they maybe did better than WoW did networking wise. Def some dumb stuff in WoW networking like SMSG_GROUP_LIST packet imo .
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:38 AM #28Archived author: HelloKitty • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:38:47.189000+00:00
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I wish I had more free time to study more recent MMORPGs like Wildstar and others, to learn what they maybe did better than WoW did networking wise. Def some dumb stuff in WoW networking like SMSG_GROUP_LIST packet imo .
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first u could go for modern wow and see if they do better <:zuccwater:449685374189699072>
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:40 AM #29Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:40:13.085000+00:00
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first u could go for modern wow and see if they do better <:zuccwater:449685374189699072>
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spoiler: they dont imo <:lul:451485508380655616>
rektbyfaith
06-26-2023, 09:40 AM #30Archived author: Fabian • Posted: 2023-06-26T09:40:41.196000+00:00
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spoiler: they dont imo <:lul:451485508380655616>
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