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[DiscordArchive] SAI lacks support, that's a fact, but how deep can SAI get as in scripting complicated bosses?

[DiscordArchive] SAI lacks support, that's a fact, but how deep can SAI get as in scripting complicated bosses?

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02-05-2024, 11:38 PM
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Archived author: Northstrider • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:38:24.354000+00:00
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this is not the point of this discussion. the thing is that bosses use certain instance script mechanics which are automated by BossAI. smartAI does not handle these, so consequently in order to properly support and handle bosses, we would have to add new smart actions
rektbyfaith
02-05-2024, 11:38 PM #11

Archived author: Northstrider • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:38:24.354000+00:00
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this is not the point of this discussion. the thing is that bosses use certain instance script mechanics which are automated by BossAI. smartAI does not handle these, so consequently in order to properly support and handle bosses, we would have to add new smart actions

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02-05-2024, 11:46 PM
#12
Archived author: Foe • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:46:59.698000+00:00
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I think you coined it best here. Everything is relative, using the correct tool for the job is much better than trying to force a tool to be something other than what it is
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02-05-2024, 11:46 PM #12

Archived author: Foe • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:46:59.698000+00:00
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I think you coined it best here. Everything is relative, using the correct tool for the job is much better than trying to force a tool to be something other than what it is

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02-05-2024, 11:47 PM
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Archived author: Foe • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:47:46.327000+00:00
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I don't think adding *more* complexity and/or features to SAI is a good solution, you just end up bloating it beyond what it *should* be used for
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02-05-2024, 11:47 PM #13

Archived author: Foe • Posted: 2024-02-05T23:47:46.327000+00:00
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I don't think adding *more* complexity and/or features to SAI is a good solution, you just end up bloating it beyond what it *should* be used for

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02-06-2024, 10:44 PM
#14
Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:44:44.048000+00:00
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sometimes I am left perplexed by how people think SAI was written in stone by Moses centuries ago and cannot be modified at all. SAI implementation is in C++, anything you can do in a C++ script can be done in SAI, as long as one implements it
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02-06-2024, 10:44 PM #14

Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:44:44.048000+00:00
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sometimes I am left perplexed by how people think SAI was written in stone by Moses centuries ago and cannot be modified at all. SAI implementation is in C++, anything you can do in a C++ script can be done in SAI, as long as one implements it

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02-06-2024, 10:45 PM
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Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:45:10.103000+00:00
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fun fact: SAI has a better automatic spell retry handling than C++ scripts out of the box
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02-06-2024, 10:45 PM #15

Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:45:10.103000+00:00
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fun fact: SAI has a better automatic spell retry handling than C++ scripts out of the box

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02-06-2024, 10:45 PM
#16
Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:45:41.821000+00:00
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how is that ? I implemented it
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02-06-2024, 10:45 PM #16

Archived author: jackpoz • Posted: 2024-02-06T22:45:41.821000+00:00
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how is that ? I implemented it

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02-06-2024, 11:15 PM
#17
Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:15:28.324000+00:00
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I never said you can't improve it but it's just not the right tool
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02-06-2024, 11:15 PM #17

Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:15:28.324000+00:00
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I never said you can't improve it but it's just not the right tool

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02-06-2024, 11:16 PM
#18
Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:16:00.243000+00:00
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alas, imagine having to implement Sylvanas based on SAI alone
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02-06-2024, 11:16 PM #18

Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:16:00.243000+00:00
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alas, imagine having to implement Sylvanas based on SAI alone

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02-06-2024, 11:16 PM
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Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:16:36.904000+00:00
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my mind can't grasp how many new actions you'd require JUST for that single boss, which by the way, they wouldn't be generic, they're counter specific
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02-06-2024, 11:16 PM #19

Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:16:36.904000+00:00
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my mind can't grasp how many new actions you'd require JUST for that single boss, which by the way, they wouldn't be generic, they're counter specific

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02-06-2024, 11:17 PM
#20
Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:17:10.375000+00:00
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also, it's not as easy to debug during development time for complex boss fights
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02-06-2024, 11:17 PM #20

Archived author: Telegrill • Posted: 2024-02-06T23:17:10.375000+00:00
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also, it's not as easy to debug during development time for complex boss fights

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