[DiscordArchive] This Quest is the only case? Or are other pools of your daily quests have also this doubled/race cas
[DiscordArchive] This Quest is the only case? Or are other pools of your daily quests have also this doubled/race cas
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This Quest is the only case? Or are other pools of your daily quests have also this doubled/race case?
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:50 PM #1Archived author: Naddley • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:50:25.342000+00:00
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This Quest is the only case? Or are other pools of your daily quests have also this doubled/race case?
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Only that case
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:50 PM #2Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:50:49.469000+00:00
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Only that case
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So basically, a long time ago when someone originally tried these fixes, shauren had instructed them to use a pool within a pool. But I've tested that, and it doesn't really work acceptably.
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:51 PM #3Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:51:53.608000+00:00
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So basically, a long time ago when someone originally tried these fixes, shauren had instructed them to use a pool within a pool. But I've tested that, and it doesn't really work acceptably.
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the solution I've found that seems to work is if you assign the same poolIndex value to both quests
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:52 PM #4Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:52:28.884000+00:00
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the solution I've found that seems to work is if you assign the same poolIndex value to both quests
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because what happens then, is when a specific pool index is selected, both quests become 'live' (even though the max number value is 1)...because the max number value only determines how many indices are chosen, not how many quests are chosen
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:53 PM #5Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:53:59.998000+00:00
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because what happens then, is when a specific pool index is selected, both quests become 'live' (even though the max number value is 1)...because the max number value only determines how many indices are chosen, not how many quests are chosen
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so, when they're both live, normal criteria rules which determine which version of a quest a character gets based on race or class work normally...so from there it's just a question of making sure the quest itself has the proper assignments to make it only visibile to specific races
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:55 PM #6Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:55:38.481000+00:00
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so, when they're both live, normal criteria rules which determine which version of a quest a character gets based on race or class work normally...so from there it's just a question of making sure the quest itself has the proper assignments to make it only visibile to specific races
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but since that is a solution that has never been used in the db before, I'm reluctant to post a fix with it unless someone who's more familiar with how the core interacts with the db says it's okay...because I wouldn't want to introduce a strange undocumented edge case that could later result in crashing
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 04:57 PM #7Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T16:57:25.030000+00:00
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but since that is a solution that has never been used in the db before, I'm reluctant to post a fix with it unless someone who's more familiar with how the core interacts with the db says it's okay...because I wouldn't want to introduce a strange undocumented edge case that could later result in crashing
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I guess one of the things that makes this complicated to test is that not only would you have to manipulate the time to make sure that that index was chosen and then test it with every race after seed manipulation, but also, even if the solution works, it might not appear to work, because there are many cases even with normal quests where race/non-race flags don't seem to work properly (northshire is a good example, where the non-racial versions of the quests don't work properly, because essentially they fall into the same category we have here...because I believe that the way we've got criteria coded in the core currently, it doesn't allow for negative racemasks...(i.e. every race BUT a specific race)...
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 05:05 PM #8Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T17:05:39.461000+00:00
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I guess one of the things that makes this complicated to test is that not only would you have to manipulate the time to make sure that that index was chosen and then test it with every race after seed manipulation, but also, even if the solution works, it might not appear to work, because there are many cases even with normal quests where race/non-race flags don't seem to work properly (northshire is a good example, where the non-racial versions of the quests don't work properly, because essentially they fall into the same category we have here...because I believe that the way we've got criteria coded in the core currently, it doesn't allow for negative racemasks...(i.e. every race BUT a specific race)...
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it's also possible that they could've been implemented and just don't work properly in any of the cases I've checked...because pretty much every time there's been multiple quests that are supposed to be assigned by race or gender, they seem to not assign properly in one way or another.
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 05:09 PM #9Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T17:09:16.610000+00:00
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it's also possible that they could've been implemented and just don't work properly in any of the cases I've checked...because pretty much every time there's been multiple quests that are supposed to be assigned by race or gender, they seem to not assign properly in one way or another.
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(mind you class is fine...quests locked to specific classes have not given me trouble...just race and gender)
rektbyfaith
11-24-2023, 05:12 PM #10Archived author: Kelpie • Posted: 2023-11-24T17:12:24.991000+00:00
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(mind you class is fine...quests locked to specific classes have not given me trouble...just race and gender)
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