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rektbyfaith
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01-29-2023, 04:33 PM
#11
Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:33:51.704000+00:00
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I mean. Would love a in world editor
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:33 PM #11

Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:33:51.704000+00:00
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I mean. Would love a in world editor

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01-29-2023, 04:34 PM
#12
Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:34:31.927000+00:00
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The only limitation i would see is that select tables in the world db are caches on the client end and would required a restart of the click and not a simple relog
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:34 PM #12

Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:34:31.927000+00:00
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The only limitation i would see is that select tables in the world db are caches on the client end and would required a restart of the click and not a simple relog

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01-29-2023, 04:34 PM
#13
Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:34:39.320000+00:00
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Such as npc txt
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:34 PM #13

Archived author: M'Dic • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:34:39.320000+00:00
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Such as npc txt

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01-29-2023, 04:36 PM
#14
Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:36:31.543000+00:00
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Keira is a GUI program that the user (to my understanding) would create things imperatively, if they don't copy the SQL that it outputs.

They're describing more of a CLI tool that lets your write a YAML file defining "I have these NPCs/Guilds/Items/NPC text/etc" and they need to exist in a reliable way. If they don't exist, create them. If they exist but aren't correct, create them.
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:36 PM #14

Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:36:31.543000+00:00
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Keira is a GUI program that the user (to my understanding) would create things imperatively, if they don't copy the SQL that it outputs.

They're describing more of a CLI tool that lets your write a YAML file defining "I have these NPCs/Guilds/Items/NPC text/etc" and they need to exist in a reliable way. If they don't exist, create them. If they exist but aren't correct, create them.

rektbyfaith
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01-29-2023, 04:37 PM
#15
Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:37:37.783000+00:00
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You can run the queries from Keira, it's not only a copy-paste situation.
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:37 PM #15

Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:37:37.783000+00:00
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You can run the queries from Keira, it's not only a copy-paste situation.

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01-29-2023, 04:38 PM
#16
Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:38:00.762000+00:00
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I think their terraform reference is good. Terraform doesn't say "I will create a server in AWS", Terraform says "Does this server exist? If not, create it. If so, does it match my configured parameters? if not, fix it" and "Did they remove the server from the state? I will remove the server from AWS"
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:38 PM #16

Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:38:00.762000+00:00
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I think their terraform reference is good. Terraform doesn't say "I will create a server in AWS", Terraform says "Does this server exist? If not, create it. If so, does it match my configured parameters? if not, fix it" and "Did they remove the server from the state? I will remove the server from AWS"

rektbyfaith
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01-29-2023, 04:39 PM
#17
Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:39:44.407000+00:00
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Correct. I just meant if they don't persist the full SQL code into a SQL file and the GameObject somehow gets changed in the database one way or another, it will have to be fixed/changed.
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:39 PM #17

Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:39:44.407000+00:00
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Correct. I just meant if they don't persist the full SQL code into a SQL file and the GameObject somehow gets changed in the database one way or another, it will have to be fixed/changed.

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01-29-2023, 04:40 PM
#18
Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:40:09.174000+00:00
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Is it really that much effort to copy the query and paste it into a file?
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:40 PM #18

Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:40:09.174000+00:00
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Is it really that much effort to copy the query and paste it into a file?

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01-29-2023, 04:46 PM
#19
Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:46:30.921000+00:00
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nobody said that it's a lot of effort to copy the SQL, I suggested it might not be something that everyone does. When I use keira, I save the SQL output to a file in `data/sql/custom`, without executing it from Keira.

IMO the draw is that yaml or whatever markup language is more readable/writable for some people than SQL and it might be faster than going through Keira.

I do personally agree the answer here is "why not just learn SQL and keep the SQL files as 'configuration as code'" but I can see why someone would prefer non-sql
rektbyfaith
01-29-2023, 04:46 PM #19

Archived author: mynameismeat • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:46:30.921000+00:00
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nobody said that it's a lot of effort to copy the SQL, I suggested it might not be something that everyone does. When I use keira, I save the SQL output to a file in `data/sql/custom`, without executing it from Keira.

IMO the draw is that yaml or whatever markup language is more readable/writable for some people than SQL and it might be faster than going through Keira.

I do personally agree the answer here is "why not just learn SQL and keep the SQL files as 'configuration as code'" but I can see why someone would prefer non-sql

rektbyfaith
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01-29-2023, 04:57 PM
#20
Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:57:58.251000+00:00
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You don't need to know SQL to know to paste the text into a file and store it safely
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01-29-2023, 04:57 PM #20

Archived author: Revision • Posted: 2023-01-29T16:57:58.251000+00:00
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You don't need to know SQL to know to paste the text into a file and store it safely

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