[Archive] Cata zones to WOTLK Azeroth _env terrain shaders crashing
[Archive] Cata zones to WOTLK Azeroth _env terrain shaders crashing
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Never use Taliis. It spoils things. Read the beginner's tutorial set. It is very well explained there.
rektbyfaith
05-17-2016, 02:04 PM #11Archived author: Skarn • Posted: 2016-05-17T14:04:23+00:00
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Never use Taliis. It spoils things. Read the beginner's tutorial set. It is very well explained there.
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I'm a dumbass.. should've checked for tutorials here instead of googling.
Fileinfo created files with all the models and coordinates but how do I apply that to the ADT? Not sure what loadinfo does, but appears to be the same thing.
I created some blank ADT's with AdtAdder WOTLK format using the Template_0_0.adt. I tested it out with 3 ADT's, imported greyscale alphamaps and the heightmaps and skipped the models for now. I'm not sure if that matters. One of the ADT had a weird alphamaps bug. If I imported all 3 layers, layer 1 or 2 would have a black rectangle pattern horizontally all over it. If I fixed layer 1, layer 2 got the rectangles and visa versa. Not sure what that's all about.
There's also the Layer Settings option in FuTa, and looks to list all the tilesets required and the texture for each layer. It has layer 0-3 instead of alphamaps layer 1-3, why? I tried with both manually editing it to be the same as the original ADT and leaving it unchanged (duskwood stuff). The result is invisible ADT's in-game.
Also tried mashing it together with the rest of the continent using Riu's Zone Masher. Still invisible. Am I missing something crucial here? For the sake of testing I'm only trying to get the ground working.
rektbyfaith
05-17-2016, 06:42 PM #12Archived author: Salt • Posted: 2016-05-17T18:42:20+00:00
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I'm a dumbass.. should've checked for tutorials here instead of googling.
Fileinfo created files with all the models and coordinates but how do I apply that to the ADT? Not sure what loadinfo does, but appears to be the same thing.
I created some blank ADT's with AdtAdder WOTLK format using the Template_0_0.adt. I tested it out with 3 ADT's, imported greyscale alphamaps and the heightmaps and skipped the models for now. I'm not sure if that matters. One of the ADT had a weird alphamaps bug. If I imported all 3 layers, layer 1 or 2 would have a black rectangle pattern horizontally all over it. If I fixed layer 1, layer 2 got the rectangles and visa versa. Not sure what that's all about.
There's also the Layer Settings option in FuTa, and looks to list all the tilesets required and the texture for each layer. It has layer 0-3 instead of alphamaps layer 1-3, why? I tried with both manually editing it to be the same as the original ADT and leaving it unchanged (duskwood stuff). The result is invisible ADT's in-game.
Also tried mashing it together with the rest of the continent using Riu's Zone Masher. Still invisible. Am I missing something crucial here? For the sake of testing I'm only trying to get the ground working.
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It's because of the heightmap. When I export them ALL 100+ heightmaps are 148 KB, and when I import them they all look the same.
![[Image: heightmap.thumb.png.df7001c99b7c4de620f6...c9e118.png]](https://www.wowmodding.net/uploads/monthly_2016_05/heightmap.png.e7b5444a0d888daed096ad374d798694.png)
A different shade of green and no shape pretty much. Is FuTa really the only way to re-create ADT's? There's no other heightmap tool that I know of besides Taliis which is a no no.
rektbyfaith
05-18-2016, 03:28 PM #13Archived author: Salt • Posted: 2016-05-18T15:28:19+00:00
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It's because of the heightmap. When I export them ALL 100+ heightmaps are 148 KB, and when I import them they all look the same.
A different shade of green and no shape pretty much. Is FuTa really the only way to re-create ADT's? There's no other heightmap tool that I know of besides Taliis which is a no no.
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Your ADTs initially have some offsets possibly.
rektbyfaith
05-19-2016, 04:52 PM #14Archived author: Skarn • Posted: 2016-05-19T16:52:10+00:00
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Your ADTs initially have some offsets possibly.
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Tried to remove offsets before converting to 3.3.5 but the fixing makes some of the ADT's about 1.3 gig just Gilneas is already 50 gigs at the end
![[Image: huh.png]](https://www.wowmodding.net/uploads/emoticons/huh.png)
I know that the Azeroth_25_32 has an empty plane heightmap and no alphamaps or models so nothing special about them it seemsI'll just make the new ADT's now to see if the initial removing worked for the ones that converted normally.
rektbyfaith
05-30-2016, 04:23 PM #15Archived author: Salt • Posted: 2016-05-30T16:23:24+00:00
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Tried to remove offsets before converting to 3.3.5 but the fixing makes some of the ADT's about 1.3 gig just Gilneas is already 50 gigs at the end I know that the Azeroth_25_32 has an empty plane heightmap and no alphamaps or models so nothing special about them it seems
I'll just make the new ADT's now to see if the initial removing worked for the ones that converted normally.
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Alpha maps are not being properly read neither extracted/imported with FuTa. I thought those black squares were normal as it was also displayed when reading the ADT's, but no those are probably offsets. I don't exactly know what these offsets are anyway, probably positional data that has to be corrected. FuTa is the only tool who can do this, but sadly it's not made for this kind of thing.
The FuTa that's included in the WoWDevKit is different from another one I downloaded. The one I download displays a black background with heightmaps instead of blue, the alphamaps also appear different (some chunks are moved around kinda like a messed up puzzle, both have that but in different order) and yes it's the exact same file that I open then.The downloaded is able to open most converted files, but cannot open some fresh ADT's from ADTAdder and vice versa the WoWDevKit one cannot open some of the converted files but can open all from ADTAdder. Lastly the downloaded supports exporting water while the other one opens the window for saving the file, but doesn't actually create it. Is the one I downloaded an unstable version but more functional?
You mentioned that the ADT's initially have offsets. In Cata+ the ADT's are split in 4-5 files (tex, obj stuff) and the converter puts it in one ADT. Initially would mean preconverted right? When I fix offsets with the .bat for those split files for about 10% of the ADT's it removes most of the data and inflates the file with a bunch of zeros to around 800MB-1.9G. The tool is probably not intended for that type of ADT.
So yeah, either I'm doing something really wrong or I should not be using tools for this.
I've worked alot with M2/DBC files and learned from PhillipTNG's tutorials. Made quite a lot of scripts in python. For M2's or DBC's it was pretty easy to do whatever I wanted because of the PyModelEditor libraries and I was only working with simple numbers and strings. I don't know how complicated it is to transfer alphamaps or heightmaps when I read the FuTa source I can't make much sense of it yet because it's C++ (can read most of it though) and about texturing/ADT the terminology confuses me since I just started.
TL;DR
Are there any python libraries for ADT's with alphamap or heightmap? If not, could the 010 ADT template be used for that? Which I think resides in the MCAL sub-chunk correct me if I'm wrong didn't see that in the template.
I'll just study the wiki for now which I hadn't really done in detail. Maybe then I can make more sense of the FuTa source and create my own library in a simpler language or perhaps use the 010 Template to make script. Any tips are welcome for learning more about downporting, learning about ADT's (besides wiki) or anything related though not many people appear to specialize in downporting.
rektbyfaith
05-31-2016, 01:44 PM #16Archived author: Salt • Posted: 2016-05-31T13:44:43+00:00
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Alpha maps are not being properly read neither extracted/imported with FuTa. I thought those black squares were normal as it was also displayed when reading the ADT's, but no those are probably offsets. I don't exactly know what these offsets are anyway, probably positional data that has to be corrected. FuTa is the only tool who can do this, but sadly it's not made for this kind of thing.
The FuTa that's included in the WoWDevKit is different from another one I downloaded. The one I download displays a black background with heightmaps instead of blue, the alphamaps also appear different (some chunks are moved around kinda like a messed up puzzle, both have that but in different order) and yes it's the exact same file that I open then.The downloaded is able to open most converted files, but cannot open some fresh ADT's from ADTAdder and vice versa the WoWDevKit one cannot open some of the converted files but can open all from ADTAdder. Lastly the downloaded supports exporting water while the other one opens the window for saving the file, but doesn't actually create it. Is the one I downloaded an unstable version but more functional?
You mentioned that the ADT's initially have offsets. In Cata+ the ADT's are split in 4-5 files (tex, obj stuff) and the converter puts it in one ADT. Initially would mean preconverted right? When I fix offsets with the .bat for those split files for about 10% of the ADT's it removes most of the data and inflates the file with a bunch of zeros to around 800MB-1.9G. The tool is probably not intended for that type of ADT.
So yeah, either I'm doing something really wrong or I should not be using tools for this.
I've worked alot with M2/DBC files and learned from PhillipTNG's tutorials. Made quite a lot of scripts in python. For M2's or DBC's it was pretty easy to do whatever I wanted because of the PyModelEditor libraries and I was only working with simple numbers and strings. I don't know how complicated it is to transfer alphamaps or heightmaps when I read the FuTa source I can't make much sense of it yet because it's C++ (can read most of it though) and about texturing/ADT the terminology confuses me since I just started.
TL;DR
Are there any python libraries for ADT's with alphamap or heightmap? If not, could the 010 ADT template be used for that? Which I think resides in the MCAL sub-chunk correct me if I'm wrong didn't see that in the template.
I'll just study the wiki for now which I hadn't really done in detail. Maybe then I can make more sense of the FuTa source and create my own library in a simpler language or perhaps use the 010 Template to make script. Any tips are welcome for learning more about downporting, learning about ADT's (besides wiki) or anything related though not many people appear to specialize in downporting.
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rektbyfaith
04-27-2020, 12:34 AM #17Archived author: Aparecido • Posted: 2020-04-27T00:34:27+00:00
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