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01-13-2025, 09:05 AM
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Archived author: Needle • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:05:35.665000+00:00
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01-13-2025, 09:05 AM #1

Archived author: Needle • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:05:35.665000+00:00
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01-13-2025, 09:05 AM
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Archived author: Needle • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:05:36.238000+00:00
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01-13-2025, 09:05 AM #2

Archived author: Needle • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:05:36.238000+00:00
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Thread automatically created by Vethres in <#415944535718494208>

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01-13-2025, 09:39 AM
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Archived author: Rymercyble • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:39:01.774000+00:00
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what do you mean ? there is 9 rank columns
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01-13-2025, 09:39 AM #3

Archived author: Rymercyble • Posted: 2025-01-13T09:39:01.774000+00:00
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what do you mean ? there is 9 rank columns

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01-13-2025, 02:08 PM
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Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T14:08:17.441000+00:00
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you need to give more details about your problem
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01-13-2025, 02:08 PM #4

Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T14:08:17.441000+00:00
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you need to give more details about your problem

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01-13-2025, 04:18 PM
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Archived author: Vethres • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:18:24.198000+00:00
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How does stuff like improved sinister strike get applied to sinister strike? I could not find matching spell data in any of the columns
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01-13-2025, 04:18 PM #5

Archived author: Vethres • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:18:24.198000+00:00
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How does stuff like improved sinister strike get applied to sinister strike? I could not find matching spell data in any of the columns

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01-13-2025, 04:31 PM
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Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:31:30.118000+00:00
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So you already got an answer for 3.3.5 https://discord.com/channels/40766404101...6134108213

On 1.12 it works similarly but uses the `item_type` field instead for spellMask1. in 1.12 item type = spellClassMask1.

Since there is only 1 field instead of 3, client data is limited to 32bits.

So the server also contains an additional table to store more than 32 when needed.
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01-13-2025, 04:31 PM #6

Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:31:30.118000+00:00
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So you already got an answer for 3.3.5 https://discord.com/channels/40766404101...6134108213

On 1.12 it works similarly but uses the `item_type` field instead for spellMask1. in 1.12 item type = spellClassMask1.

Since there is only 1 field instead of 3, client data is limited to 32bits.

So the server also contains an additional table to store more than 32 when needed.
[Image: image.png?ex=690c24a1&is=690ad321&hm=29d...1d86aee51&]

[Image: image.png?ex=690c24a2&is=690ad322&hm=48f...b2d5506f7&]

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01-13-2025, 04:32 PM
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Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:32:25.803000+00:00
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it is "spell_affect" on vmangos, the spellfamilymask field is 64bit here, allowing up to 64 families
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01-13-2025, 04:32 PM #7

Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:32:25.803000+00:00
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it is "spell_affect" on vmangos, the spellfamilymask field is 64bit here, allowing up to 64 families
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01-13-2025, 04:34 PM
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Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:34:31.329000+00:00
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Basically in vanilla instead of expending the client table to support more spell families beyond 32 by adding more fields, they just did it server side only for those using 33+
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01-13-2025, 04:34 PM #8

Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:34:31.329000+00:00
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Basically in vanilla instead of expending the client table to support more spell families beyond 32 by adding more fields, they just did it server side only for those using 33+

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01-13-2025, 04:36 PM
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Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:36:56.125000+00:00
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1.12 has a lot less fields than 3.3.5 that's normal
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01-13-2025, 04:36 PM #9

Archived author: Titi • Posted: 2025-01-13T16:36:56.125000+00:00
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1.12 has a lot less fields than 3.3.5 that's normal

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01-14-2025, 06:00 PM
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Archived author: Vethres • Posted: 2025-01-14T18:00:50.774000+00:00
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I see. That does indeed clear things up. Thanks.
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01-14-2025, 06:00 PM #10

Archived author: Vethres • Posted: 2025-01-14T18:00:50.774000+00:00
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I see. That does indeed clear things up. Thanks.

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