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rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
#1
Archived author: MoD • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote:BC & WOTLK have such a poor exploration content that it's great & fun to mess with old versions of the game, see the changes from early alpha & current version, etc...

If you too ran out of new explorations stock for a long time, you might be interested by exploring "Kalidar", which is pretty unknown & undocumented on the net, at least to my knowledge.

It features 3 small battleground-type maps, early or never used versions of current BGs:

[Image: kalidargrid.th.jpg]

The grass map has a nice terrain, but lacks of doodads.

Me riding the castle:

[Image: wowscrnshot030509124756.th.jpg]

The snowish one, clearly the AV prefab, with open roads to Gnoll/Troll Camps, and a moonwell oO:

[Image: wowscrnshot030509130847.th.jpg]

The purple one (from wow alpha), with flat terrain & unrelated WMOs:

[Image: wowscrnshot022609180914.th.jpg]

Hopefully, It managed to awaken your frozen exploration fiber!

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Those maps are now WOTLK ready, meaning that you can use them for exploration/area changing/whatever from client 1.X to 3.X.

If you encounter green textures, disable SPECULAR lights in wow options to see them correctly.

Maps are provided as so, meaning that they are NOT packed into a ready to use MPQ file, you are free to move the land to the continent/map of your choice.

I included Minimap & WDL views pictures in the archive for more ease.

~

DOWNLOAD!

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Happy exploring!
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #1

Archived author: MoD • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote:BC & WOTLK have such a poor exploration content that it's great & fun to mess with old versions of the game, see the changes from early alpha & current version, etc...

If you too ran out of new explorations stock for a long time, you might be interested by exploring "Kalidar", which is pretty unknown & undocumented on the net, at least to my knowledge.

It features 3 small battleground-type maps, early or never used versions of current BGs:

[Image: kalidargrid.th.jpg]

The grass map has a nice terrain, but lacks of doodads.

Me riding the castle:

[Image: wowscrnshot030509124756.th.jpg]

The snowish one, clearly the AV prefab, with open roads to Gnoll/Troll Camps, and a moonwell oO:

[Image: wowscrnshot030509130847.th.jpg]

The purple one (from wow alpha), with flat terrain & unrelated WMOs:

[Image: wowscrnshot022609180914.th.jpg]

Hopefully, It managed to awaken your frozen exploration fiber!

~

Those maps are now WOTLK ready, meaning that you can use them for exploration/area changing/whatever from client 1.X to 3.X.

If you encounter green textures, disable SPECULAR lights in wow options to see them correctly.

Maps are provided as so, meaning that they are NOT packed into a ready to use MPQ file, you are free to move the land to the continent/map of your choice.

I included Minimap & WDL views pictures in the archive for more ease.

~

DOWNLOAD!

~

Happy exploring!

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
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Archived author: T@rget • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Very nice, these might be AB WSG and AV prototypes?

First one has a bit of a Capture the Flag, 2nd one has AV looks, and the 3rd screen shot only shows some trees and a skybox can't really make an AB out of that Tongue
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #2

Archived author: T@rget • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Very nice, these might be AB WSG and AV prototypes?

First one has a bit of a Capture the Flag, 2nd one has AV looks, and the 3rd screen shot only shows some trees and a skybox can't really make an AB out of that Tongue

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
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Archived author: Prokos • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Since I've got no clue what to do with these files, are these places anywhere to be found on current live servers?
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #3

Archived author: Prokos • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Since I've got no clue what to do with these files, are these places anywhere to be found on current live servers?

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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
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Archived author: Xel • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote:My eyes, they're burning! Change your font color please!
+Yes this is a cool place, I'm atm trying to reach it in my Alpha server but Worldport doen't seem to allow map ports for me...
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #4

Archived author: Xel • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote:My eyes, they're burning! Change your font color please!
+Yes this is a cool place, I'm atm trying to reach it in my Alpha server but Worldport doen't seem to allow map ports for me...

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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
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Archived author: Soluhe • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: awww nice! <(^-^<)

ok ... now ugly english inc ...

from which patch do u get this? alpha?

because in the alpha client Kalidar and PvPZone 2 were not on the same map ...

tell me something about [Image: tongue.gif]
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #5

Archived author: Soluhe • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: awww nice! <(^-^<)

ok ... now ugly english inc ...

from which patch do u get this? alpha?

because in the alpha client Kalidar and PvPZone 2 were not on the same map ...

tell me something about [Image: tongue.gif]

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
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Archived author: MoD • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Originally Posted by Prokos

Since I've got no clue what to do with these files, are these places anywhere to be found on current live servers?

No, the Kalidar instance & it's data got removed from the gamefiles way before the retail version.

The easiest way to explore those is to make a basic terrain swap (rename & pack the files to MPQ with appropriate paths, and head to the swapped ADT locations, I'm not willing to explain this any further, just search)

~

Originally Posted by Xel

...I'm atm trying to reach it in my Alpha server but Worldport doen't seem to allow map ports for me...

Abyss doesn't allow direct porting threw various instances IDs.

But it can be done by doing the following:

-Locate a file named f7fXXXXXXX.dat in your WoW alpha folder, and open it with your favorite text editor.

-You'll end up with something similar to this:

Code:
1|5|troll|1|0|7|64|0|8|4|1|2|0|3|9|0|17|-10075|-5649.12|15.902||3.42929|0|

-Check the last field, which is the Instance ID, and change it to your needs:

Code:
0 Kalimdor
1 Azeroth
2 UnderMine
13 Testing
17 Kalidar
25 ScottTest
29 CashTest
30 PVPZone01
33 Shadowfang
34 StormwindJail
35 StormwindPrison
36 DeadminesInstance
37 PVPZone02
42 Collin's Test
43 WailingCaverns
44 Monastery
47 RazorfenKraulInstance
48 Blackfathom
70 Uldaman
90 GnomeragonInstance
109 SunkenTemple
129 RazorfenDowns

-Don't forget to set your character to '2-Last Known Position' in server options, then login.

-If you end up in emptyness, tele around until you hit the ground (Kalidar & Plains of Snow are both somewhere around from -1500 to 1500 ranges)

~

Originally Posted by Soluhe

from which patch do u get this? alpha?

because in the alpha client Kalidar and PvPZone 2 were not on the same map ...

In wow alpha 5.3 build 3368, Kalidar is only featuring a few giant elven tree roots, the purple BG prefab, and the PvPZone named Plains of Snow.

So to answer your question, I guess that this version of Kalidar was available from alpha 5.5 build 3494 to beta 0.7.0 build 3694.
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #6

Archived author: MoD • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Originally Posted by Prokos

Since I've got no clue what to do with these files, are these places anywhere to be found on current live servers?

No, the Kalidar instance & it's data got removed from the gamefiles way before the retail version.

The easiest way to explore those is to make a basic terrain swap (rename & pack the files to MPQ with appropriate paths, and head to the swapped ADT locations, I'm not willing to explain this any further, just search)

~

Originally Posted by Xel

...I'm atm trying to reach it in my Alpha server but Worldport doen't seem to allow map ports for me...

Abyss doesn't allow direct porting threw various instances IDs.

But it can be done by doing the following:

-Locate a file named f7fXXXXXXX.dat in your WoW alpha folder, and open it with your favorite text editor.

-You'll end up with something similar to this:

Code:
1|5|troll|1|0|7|64|0|8|4|1|2|0|3|9|0|17|-10075|-5649.12|15.902||3.42929|0|

-Check the last field, which is the Instance ID, and change it to your needs:

Code:
0 Kalimdor
1 Azeroth
2 UnderMine
13 Testing
17 Kalidar
25 ScottTest
29 CashTest
30 PVPZone01
33 Shadowfang
34 StormwindJail
35 StormwindPrison
36 DeadminesInstance
37 PVPZone02
42 Collin's Test
43 WailingCaverns
44 Monastery
47 RazorfenKraulInstance
48 Blackfathom
70 Uldaman
90 GnomeragonInstance
109 SunkenTemple
129 RazorfenDowns

-Don't forget to set your character to '2-Last Known Position' in server options, then login.

-If you end up in emptyness, tele around until you hit the ground (Kalidar & Plains of Snow are both somewhere around from -1500 to 1500 ranges)

~

Originally Posted by Soluhe

from which patch do u get this? alpha?

because in the alpha client Kalidar and PvPZone 2 were not on the same map ...

In wow alpha 5.3 build 3368, Kalidar is only featuring a few giant elven tree roots, the purple BG prefab, and the PvPZone named Plains of Snow.

So to answer your question, I guess that this version of Kalidar was available from alpha 5.5 build 3494 to beta 0.7.0 build 3694.

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
#7
Archived author: Steve44880 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: How you convert this?

so nice ... x.x
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #7

Archived author: Steve44880 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: How you convert this?

so nice ... x.x

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
#8
Archived author: hsurce12 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Nice Really nice
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #8

Archived author: hsurce12 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Nice Really nice

rektbyfaith
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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
#9
Archived author: amynnet93 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: doesnt look like wow at all
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #9

Archived author: amynnet93 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: doesnt look like wow at all

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11-04-2025, 10:55 AM
#10
Archived author: sid1488 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Those pics looks like WC3 maps in WoW o.O specially the 1 with 3 maps on it, they do REALLY look like WC3...
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 10:55 AM #10

Archived author: sid1488 • Posted: 2025-11-04T11:55:20.044496
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Quote: Those pics looks like WC3 maps in WoW o.O specially the 1 with 3 maps on it, they do REALLY look like WC3...

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