[Archive] V5 Repack with Need 4.3.4 Client - Some Issues with Extreme XP, and elsewhere.
[Archive] V5 Repack with Need 4.3.4 Client - Some Issues with Extreme XP, and elsewhere.
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We got it going!!
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Super.Some issues:
In looking at a private [my LAN only] server, I'm trying to do an EXTREME server. So I changed a bunch of things in worldserver.conf.
These changes have all been made to a trinity 3.3.5a server and all is working fine over there. Almost anyway. Warlocks never get their soul shards so I'm missing out of Void walkers.
But when I tried this with the V5 server, things were more broken with Warlocks and were broken too with Paladins.
These are the changes I made that I backed out to see if this was the issue:
Quote: Rate.XP.Kill = 100These changes cause the first kill to get you to level 6 and you get level 10 in two more quests or so.
Rate.XP.Quest = 100
Rate.XP.Explore = 10
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I don't know if the race / faction matters here, but I'll report it so you can reproduce it if you want to.
The problem this causes is that:
(1) BloodElf Warlocks lock up on their first kill. Yep. They make one kill and they just lock up and you can't do anything with them. In 3.3.5a, no problem. But in 4.3.4, something just jams.
(2) Draenei Paladins Judgment doesn't work. Even when you get holy what.ever.they.are.called. on the top line, judgement can never be cast. I'll try this with XP rate normal and see. But I assume that judgment works normally.
[Woops - my bad. I didn't have righteousness up.] And the training dummy required to do the quest is not around. Not sure if that really makes any difference in Draenei training. We'll see.
Ok so the reason I know it's the Rate.XP that is the problem is that I backed it down, restarted the server and started another toon and tried again. At least with Warlock. This time there were only a few different problems:
(1) I never could complete the "Thirst Unending" quest where you cast Arcane Torrent. In real Wow, it works the first time. Here I tried it 3 times and it never completed.
(2) The drop rate is very very low for silvers and collars in the "Unfortunate Measures" and "Fist Full of Silvers" quests. That is until I put my IMP on passive. So looks like the worldserver is not giving me credit for my pet's kills and therefore not putting the quest object in the loot. Since it is not one quest, but two, I suspect that this is a general problem with Pet kills and will bug all quests that drop specific loot. Not sure about hunters. I'll try them soon.
One of the thing I might try is to get my Warlock and Paladin leveled up to about 20 and then turn Extreme XP back on and see what happens.
Hey, this is very cool. Thanks to everyone who made this happen. and for your help and patience. I hope that my feedback can help too.
wg
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #1Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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We got it going!! Super.
Some issues:
In looking at a private [my LAN only] server, I'm trying to do an EXTREME server. So I changed a bunch of things in worldserver.conf.
These changes have all been made to a trinity 3.3.5a server and all is working fine over there. Almost anyway. Warlocks never get their soul shards so I'm missing out of Void walkers.
But when I tried this with the V5 server, things were more broken with Warlocks and were broken too with Paladins.
These are the changes I made that I backed out to see if this was the issue:
Quote: Rate.XP.Kill = 100These changes cause the first kill to get you to level 6 and you get level 10 in two more quests or so.
Rate.XP.Quest = 100
Rate.XP.Explore = 10
Click to expand...
I don't know if the race / faction matters here, but I'll report it so you can reproduce it if you want to.
The problem this causes is that:
(1) BloodElf Warlocks lock up on their first kill. Yep. They make one kill and they just lock up and you can't do anything with them. In 3.3.5a, no problem. But in 4.3.4, something just jams.
(2) Draenei Paladins Judgment doesn't work. Even when you get holy what.ever.they.are.called. on the top line, judgement can never be cast. I'll try this with XP rate normal and see. But I assume that judgment works normally.
[Woops - my bad. I didn't have righteousness up.] And the training dummy required to do the quest is not around. Not sure if that really makes any difference in Draenei training. We'll see.
Ok so the reason I know it's the Rate.XP that is the problem is that I backed it down, restarted the server and started another toon and tried again. At least with Warlock. This time there were only a few different problems:
(1) I never could complete the "Thirst Unending" quest where you cast Arcane Torrent. In real Wow, it works the first time. Here I tried it 3 times and it never completed.
(2) The drop rate is very very low for silvers and collars in the "Unfortunate Measures" and "Fist Full of Silvers" quests. That is until I put my IMP on passive. So looks like the worldserver is not giving me credit for my pet's kills and therefore not putting the quest object in the loot. Since it is not one quest, but two, I suspect that this is a general problem with Pet kills and will bug all quests that drop specific loot. Not sure about hunters. I'll try them soon.
One of the thing I might try is to get my Warlock and Paladin leveled up to about 20 and then turn Extreme XP back on and see what happens.
Hey, this is very cool. Thanks to everyone who made this happen. and for your help and patience. I hope that my feedback can help too.
wg
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Good news: You can make an extreme server, that seems to work for warlocks and paladins by using this:
Quote: Rate.XP.Kill = 1The Warlock can progress and get all her pets and skills. The Paladin seems to work as well.
Rate.XP.Quest = 100
Rate.XP.Explore = 10
Click to expand...
Two minor issues:
(1) The training dummy for the early quest for the Draenai Paladin seems to be missing. But you can get the skills without it.
(2) The Blood Elf "Deactivating the Spire" quest does not work since the transporter is apparently bugged.
Like I said, minor issues. With quests giving 100x, things move along quite quickly. I'll try to jack up kill XP later on. Whatever happened to the Warlock when XP set to the first set of rates was permanent. This toon is totally hosed. No loot from its kills, no progression and it even crashed the server. I'll keep it in case someone wants me to export it for analysis. But it's easy enough to reproduce, I think. Just start a BE Warlock with those settings and do the first quest, and Whammo.
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wg
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #2Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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Good news: You can make an extreme server, that seems to work for warlocks and paladins by using this:
Quote: Rate.XP.Kill = 1The Warlock can progress and get all her pets and skills. The Paladin seems to work as well.
Rate.XP.Quest = 100
Rate.XP.Explore = 10
Click to expand...
Two minor issues:
(1) The training dummy for the early quest for the Draenai Paladin seems to be missing. But you can get the skills without it.
(2) The Blood Elf "Deactivating the Spire" quest does not work since the transporter is apparently bugged.
Like I said, minor issues. With quests giving 100x, things move along quite quickly. I'll try to jack up kill XP later on. Whatever happened to the Warlock when XP set to the first set of rates was permanent. This toon is totally hosed. No loot from its kills, no progression and it even crashed the server. I'll keep it in case someone wants me to export it for analysis. But it's easy enough to reproduce, I think. Just start a BE Warlock with those settings and do the first quest, and Whammo.
wg
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Hm these issues sound very strange, could you do .server info and tell me what version? I just think I remember these as issues on something like V.3
Haven't had any reports like it since.
Eg the judgement.
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #3Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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Hm these issues sound very strange, could you do .server info and tell me what version? I just think I remember these as issues on something like V.3
Haven't had any reports like it since.
Eg the judgement.
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Sure. I confirmed with .server info in chat that it's V 5.
Also, another issue. All the flight paths are broken. Either the NPC is missing - Fairbreeze Village : NPC missing, birds present - or the NPC says something inane, but displays no map - Silvermoon, Tranquillen : NPC and birds present at both. Also the NPC and birds are missing from Exodar, but the NPC and birds are present and working at Azure Watch. That flight to Exodar worked. Very strange. Did I say that I confirmed that Worldserver.conf says
Quote: #Also, the client has been up all night and loading its content, but very slowly. All the content is not here yet, which seems strange since it's been 6 hours over night.
# AllFlightPaths
# Description: Character knows all flight paths (of both factions) after creation.
# Default: 0 - (Disabled)
# 1 - (Enabled)
AllFlightPaths = 0
#
# InstantFlightPaths
# Description: Flight paths will take players to their destination instantly instead
# of making them wait while flying.
# Default: 0 - (Disabled)
# 1 - (Enabled)
InstantFlightPaths = 0
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Oh. I thought I mentioned that the Judgement thing was my bad. I forgot to activate Righteousness. It works fine when I do.
wg
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #4Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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Sure. I confirmed with .server info in chat that it's V 5.
Also, another issue. All the flight paths are broken. Either the NPC is missing - Fairbreeze Village : NPC missing, birds present - or the NPC says something inane, but displays no map - Silvermoon, Tranquillen : NPC and birds present at both. Also the NPC and birds are missing from Exodar, but the NPC and birds are present and working at Azure Watch. That flight to Exodar worked. Very strange. Did I say that I confirmed that Worldserver.conf says
Quote: #Also, the client has been up all night and loading its content, but very slowly. All the content is not here yet, which seems strange since it's been 6 hours over night.
# AllFlightPaths
# Description: Character knows all flight paths (of both factions) after creation.
# Default: 0 - (Disabled)
# 1 - (Enabled)
AllFlightPaths = 0
#
# InstantFlightPaths
# Description: Flight paths will take players to their destination instantly instead
# of making them wait while flying.
# Default: 0 - (Disabled)
# 1 - (Enabled)
InstantFlightPaths = 0
Click to expand...
Oh. I thought I mentioned that the Judgement thing was my bad. I forgot to activate Righteousness. It works fine when I do.
wg
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ok. More testing with flight paths.
In Exodar, the NPC is actually outside. - They keep moving him around. I remember he was inside downstairs. But I found him outside. No Hypos with him. Whatever. I tried both settings. With AllFlightPaths=0, the NPC gives you a brush off and no map. With AllFlightPaths=1, the NPC shows you an empty map with only Exodar on it. I'll try a new character creation with All and Instant = 1 and see what happens here in Azure Isles, and then in Blood Elf land and see if I see something different. Really? Are the settings captured on character creation?
Anyway, looks like travel is a problem. I'll get you some more data with fresh toons. I may have to delete some soon.
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wg
All / Instant = 1
Exodar / Old character - there is a disagreement about where the flight NPC is supposed to be and that breaks flights from there. If you fly Azure watch > Exodar you end up inside next to a quarter master. But flight NPC is outside and has no clue about where to fly. But with =1 at least he shows you empty map.
Azure Watch - NPC and birds are present and show all the flight points.
Outside Silvermoon city the NPC is bugged and can't fly you anywhere.
Tranquillen shows all flight paths and instantly flys you to Silvermoon.
Fairbreeze Village - NPC is missing. Dragons are flapping there, tho.
Looks like no reason to test with brand new characters.
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #5Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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ok. More testing with flight paths.
In Exodar, the NPC is actually outside. - They keep moving him around. I remember he was inside downstairs. But I found him outside. No Hypos with him. Whatever. I tried both settings. With AllFlightPaths=0, the NPC gives you a brush off and no map. With AllFlightPaths=1, the NPC shows you an empty map with only Exodar on it. I'll try a new character creation with All and Instant = 1 and see what happens here in Azure Isles, and then in Blood Elf land and see if I see something different. Really? Are the settings captured on character creation?
Anyway, looks like travel is a problem. I'll get you some more data with fresh toons. I may have to delete some soon.
wg
All / Instant = 1
Exodar / Old character - there is a disagreement about where the flight NPC is supposed to be and that breaks flights from there. If you fly Azure watch > Exodar you end up inside next to a quarter master. But flight NPC is outside and has no clue about where to fly. But with =1 at least he shows you empty map.
Azure Watch - NPC and birds are present and show all the flight points.
Outside Silvermoon city the NPC is bugged and can't fly you anywhere.
Tranquillen shows all flight paths and instantly flys you to Silvermoon.
Fairbreeze Village - NPC is missing. Dragons are flapping there, tho.
Looks like no reason to test with brand new characters.
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Hey Windy. Thanks for confirming, and thanks for reporting the bugs!
The exodar flight master is spawned in next version / VIP version (v6), but need to check flight points as I haven't checked that when I spawned it.
Glad the Judgement works now,
Either way - I appreciate the bug reporting, and I'll gladly look into it, but please report it in a new thread here; http://www.emucoach.com/forumdisplay.php...-Cataclysm and I'll check it out soon enough.
Let me know if you discover other bugs in the thread!
rektbyfaith
11-04-2025, 05:16 PM #6Archived author: windygamer • Posted: 2025-11-04T18:16:34.934450
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Hey Windy. Thanks for confirming, and thanks for reporting the bugs!
The exodar flight master is spawned in next version / VIP version (v6), but need to check flight points as I haven't checked that when I spawned it.
Glad the Judgement works now,
Either way - I appreciate the bug reporting, and I'll gladly look into it, but please report it in a new thread here; http://www.emucoach.com/forumdisplay.php...-Cataclysm and I'll check it out soon enough.
Let me know if you discover other bugs in the thread!
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